tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1084418948126858292.post2969510354239128329..comments2024-03-29T05:03:44.945-07:00Comments on Hello, Tailor: Prometheus: Proof that epic sci-fi doesn't belong in the Alien franchise.Hello, Tailorhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/13256331677624433795noreply@blogger.comBlogger19125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1084418948126858292.post-65710278664722286452019-03-15T05:07:01.313-07:002019-03-15T05:07:01.313-07:00Truly a very good article on how to handle the fut...Truly a very good article on how to handle the future technology. 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It's definitely not what the director was going for, but it is the only thing that makes sense.shuu_iamnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1084418948126858292.post-76156955624005351892012-06-18T01:51:29.589-07:002012-06-18T01:51:29.589-07:00i'm not totally up-to-date on the whole Promet...i'm not totally up-to-date on the whole Prometheus script process or anything, but i'm fairly sure that the whole, "i't snot connected to alien!" thing isn't something that was revised mid-way through production -- it was something ridley scott was saying because he's a troll. because he was saying that pretty much until the trailer came out, ie at which point they had clearly, written, filmed and mostly finished with post-production on the whole thing. i'm fairly certain that he set out to create another alien movie, and that he has a whole horrifying george lucas plan in place where there are two other pre-Alien stories to tell after Prometheus . he's already started takling about a sequel called Paradise, which may or may not contain more awful Space Jesus. LIKE, THEY EVEN FILMED SOME SPACE JESUS SCENES THAT WERE LATER CUT FROM PROMETHEUS!! a;sdklj no.<br /><br />the hollywood script revision process is a mystery, though. AFAIK, the more money a film has behind it, the less likely the final version will remain close to the original script because you end up with a whole bunch of demographic consultants attempting to open up the movie to wider markets, and/or marketing people butting in to explain that audiences are stupid and don't want to watch a movie that has a carefully-thought-out plot because Transformers was totes successful.hellotailornoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1084418948126858292.post-66352542811626309002012-06-18T01:49:41.063-07:002012-06-18T01:49:41.063-07:00I thought I read somewhere about how Scott had bee...I thought I read somewhere about how Scott had been planning on making Prometheus as an entirely-unrelated-to-Alien movie, but studio interference happened? (like: 'Heyyy, guy. Sounds great, now shoehorn in some Alien-related shit cuz that's an ESTABLISHED big-draw, kthxbye') I haven't seen it yet, but from what I've heard the story being hastily repurposed might be one of the causes of problems?<br />Awesome review, btw. Looking forward to the costuming one - you make me *care* about clothes, which is pretty impressive (she says from the huddle of $10 flannelette shirt and track pants)<br />-meh_guhWeezl_petenoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1084418948126858292.post-18875740753538045162012-06-14T17:25:57.548-07:002012-06-14T17:25:57.548-07:00"...it didn't make a hell of a lot of sen..."...it didn't make a hell of a lot of sense."<br />Really, this could have been the whole review. Just saw it earlier today myself and was underwhelmed. They had some good actors, special effects and production designs, but the plot was inexplicable. It felt like a bunch of scripts had been mashed together, leaving a series of random events with no logic or meaning to them. None of the characters had comprehensible motivations. I'd be surprised if even the writers had any idea what was going on.<br /><br />Comparing the taut simplicity of the original Alien with this confused mess just makes me sad. They can spend that much on a movie, but they can't afford a decent script? Screw you, Hollywood!<br /><br />(And I know, people like me let them get away with it, by going to see this one purely based on the previous strength of the franchise and a pretty trailer... I'm just as annoyed with myself for being taken in by it.)Robofishnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1084418948126858292.post-38894637947746627932012-06-14T12:45:54.971-07:002012-06-14T12:45:54.971-07:00I so wanted to like this movie but man, i just did...I so wanted to like this movie but man, i just did not. Your review is very interesting, points out a lot of my issues as well as a couple things i missed and...bleh. At least I'll always have Alien, heh. But movies whose underpinnings are all about 'god' and our 'place' in the universe and 'where did we come from' type stuff is so incredibly boring to me. The more they prattled on about faith the more i wanted facehuggers to spring from the walls and eat them.tabaquinoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1084418948126858292.post-55159156952897084502012-06-14T12:43:31.785-07:002012-06-14T12:43:31.785-07:00Man, this. They were are so *very stupid* - let&...Man, this. They were are so *very stupid* - let's take our helmets off! Let's coo at weird alien worm-cobra-vagina thingies as if they were small puppies! Sheesh.tabaquinoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1084418948126858292.post-2242923050281124792012-06-14T02:32:43.793-07:002012-06-14T02:32:43.793-07:00I came across your insightful posts on the costumi...I came across your insightful posts on the costuming in Alien(s) whilst on a space suit research project. Besides falling in love at first sight with your blog, I was deeply curious how you'd receive Prometheus. Disappointment at lost potential seems to be the feeling of the day; Gavin Rothery's (production designer for "Moon") analysis resonates with this emotion as well: http://www.gavinrothery.com/my-blog/2012/6/11/so-what-was-wrong-with-prometheus.htmlDavenoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1084418948126858292.post-61080875976427610082012-06-14T01:19:37.403-07:002012-06-14T01:19:37.403-07:00i watched the film as someone not realising the Al...i watched the film as someone not realising the Alien connection until about ten minutes in (NO, I DON'T UNDERSTAND HOW I MANAGED THAT EITHER) - and i've not actually /seen/ any of the Alien films, anyway. so i think i saw a different film to most people. structurally, it was all over the shop and i wasn't really sure who the protagonist was (DAVID PLS) until Suddenly Noomi Rapace And God. <br /><br />the viral stuff didn't really help - i was definately expecting a different film to the one i saw, though i was certainly entertained! but there was a much stronger film in there, somewhere, that i'm assuming got lost in edits/rewrites but, as is, it looks like no one really got what they wanted/expected from Prometheus.jack.noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1084418948126858292.post-56655580734463073562012-06-13T17:37:26.679-07:002012-06-13T17:37:26.679-07:00i actually think that vickers was meant to be an a...i actually think that vickers was meant to be an antagonist? like, we weren't really meant to like her. partly because she was the corporate/controlling character, which would've been an immediate sign of evil in the other alien movies. plus she was way less humane and compassionate than ripley.hellotailornoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1084418948126858292.post-78246342916912895282012-06-13T17:28:28.090-07:002012-06-13T17:28:28.090-07:00just chiming in that I thought Vickers was meant t...just chiming in that I thought Vickers was meant to be read exactly as we both read her--not an antagonist, just an equally tough female character like Ripley, forced to do the same things Ripley had to do in the first film, aka spending lots of time having to exert authority over people who didn't want to listen to her, attempting to keep contaminated crew members from coming aboard the ship, etc etc.Ajahttp://twitter.com/mmmarthurnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1084418948126858292.post-50670489415283607092012-06-13T17:27:19.810-07:002012-06-13T17:27:19.810-07:00i don't think anyone liked noomi rapace's ...i don't think anyone liked noomi rapace's character. it was weird because i was SUPER LOOKING FORWARD to her because a) space archaelogist, and b) noomi rapace, but she was just... weirdly unlikeable? idk. but "unlikeable" was seriously an adjective i heard from several of my friends, separately, regarding her character.hellotailornoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1084418948126858292.post-89770667921067690572012-06-13T17:26:10.532-07:002012-06-13T17:26:10.532-07:00both. Tree of Life is simultaneously all about th...both. Tree of Life is simultaneously all about the ~wondrous scope~ of the universe/evolution/life on earth and anviliciously Godstuff-y.Ajahttp://twitter.com/mmmarthurnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1084418948126858292.post-62637957331350480532012-06-13T17:24:02.724-07:002012-06-13T17:24:02.724-07:00THAT'S GONNA BE IN THE COSTUMES AND CHARACTERS...THAT'S GONNA BE IN THE COSTUMES AND CHARACTERS POST, OBVS, tch, honestly. <br /><br />i haven't seen tree of life so i can't comment on that one, but if you mean artsiness, do you mean the ~wondrous scope~ of the visuals? or the god stuff? because IMO the god stuff was kinda childish and simplistic.hellotailornoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1084418948126858292.post-41965647723015536132012-06-13T17:15:21.943-07:002012-06-13T17:15:21.943-07:00well, to be fair to the spirit of the franchise, t...well, to be fair to the spirit of the franchise, that's exactly what the first 2 Alien films are all about, isn't it? Everyone else besides Ripley making critical errors in judgment, failing to listen to her advice, just like they fail to listen to Naomi Rapace's advice in the end. Though I appreciated that the badassery was sort of shared between Charlize Theron and NR's character; I wasn't actually sure in the end that I sympathized with NR that much, unfortunately. Maybe making one of the world's greatest scientist a kooky scientologist wasn't exactly the right path for this story to take.Ajahttp://twitter.com/mmmarthurnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1084418948126858292.post-5274246818353101242012-06-13T17:13:04.848-07:002012-06-13T17:13:04.848-07:00you forgot the most obvious throwback, aka Naomi R...you forgot the most obvious throwback, aka Naomi Rapace RUNNING AROUND IN HER WHITE UNDERWEAR sfkal;jlkads.<br /><br />That said, I think this movie's aesthetic and overall....artsiness....make so much more sense to me if I read it as Ridley Scott's take on Terence Malik's Tree of Life. sadfklj;adsf. Seriously.Ajahttp://twitter.com/mmmarthurnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1084418948126858292.post-85427109526317644472012-06-13T14:22:44.894-07:002012-06-13T14:22:44.894-07:00ughhhh, once i'd read that post about the chri...ughhhh, once i'd read that post about the christian backstory of the movie re: ridley scott's baffling jesus plans i was just like, WHAT. ARE. YOU DOING. this is making me so concerned about the blade runner sequel. AND the apparent PROMETHEUS SEQUEL? called Paradise?? oh mannnn. <br /><br />i'm gonna be writing about the characters later, but i think that the incompetence was by mistake?? honestly it felt like a story that had been written well and then rewritten badly. like, if the crew had been told they were going on a scientific exploratory mission and then landed on the planet only to discover that a) weyland was onboard, and b) that they now had to look for "god", then it would've made sense because all of their (presumed) plans would've had to have been rewritten on the spur of the moment, somewhat like how in Sunshine the characters have a very specific and well-prepared mission in mind, but circumstances force them to think on their feet. so the first conflict would be "peter weyland's here and he's your boss so now you have to look for Alien God!!" and the second conflict would be, you know, "holy shit, we're being chased by aliens!" <br /><br />Vickers was the most sensible character. she was meant to be the antagonist but she was basically just being a more extreme version of ripley in the first alien movie -- ie, almost genre-savvy in the sense that she's trying to keep safe, keep contamination off the ship, etc.hellotailornoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1084418948126858292.post-65081921129002415022012-06-13T14:11:32.149-07:002012-06-13T14:11:32.149-07:00The more I think about this movie, the angrier I g...The more I think about this movie, the angrier I get. /o\ Really, besides the bizarrely ethnocentric faux-Christian (sub)text, my biggest WTF was the blithe incompetence of all the human characters. It felt like every calamity (with the one obvious exception being David infecting Holloway) that befell the crew was self-inflicted due to their extreme cases of too-dumb-to-live and I couldn't tell if it was on purpose! Were they meant to come across as bumbling fools? <br /><br />It was really gorgeous, though, and David was very compelling as a character, and whenever I wasn't yelling WTF at the screen, I was pretty entertained.Wax Jismnoreply@blogger.com